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Lysis This scarce antiquarian book is a facsimile reprint of the original Due to its age it may contain imperfections such as marks notations marginalia and flawed pages Because we believe this work is c

  • Title: Lysis
  • Author: Plato
  • ISBN: 9781419131806
  • Page: 147
  • Format: Paperback
  • This scarce antiquarian book is a facsimile reprint of the original Due to its age, it may contain imperfections such as marks, notations, marginalia and flawed pages Because we believe this work is culturally important, we have made it available as part of our commitment for protecting, preserving, and promoting the world s literature in affordable, high quality, modernThis scarce antiquarian book is a facsimile reprint of the original Due to its age, it may contain imperfections such as marks, notations, marginalia and flawed pages Because we believe this work is culturally important, we have made it available as part of our commitment for protecting, preserving, and promoting the world s literature in affordable, high quality, modern editions that are true to the original work.

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    1. Manny on said:

      The Trial of Socrates and Rolf Harris (part 1)[A courtroom at The Hague. SOCRATES, ROLF HARRIS, various COUNSELS and COURT FUNCTIONARIES, JOURNALISTS and members of the PUBLIC]COURT USHER: The case of Zeus versus Socrates and Rolf Harris, Lord Justice Cocklecarrot presiding, all rise, all riseCKLECARROT: Please be seated. Socrates and Rolf Harris, you stand accused of corrupting the youth of Athens and Perth. How do you plead?SOCRATES: Guilty.HARRIS: Not guilty.[Murmurs from the public gallery. [...]

    2. Greg on said:

      And I would rather have a good friend than the best cockLysis is the Plato dialogue on Friendship. After a preliminary discussion with Lysis about his parents and the things he is and not premitted to do, Menexenus enters into the dialogue and the focus shifts to friendship. Socrates says, "I should greatly prefer a real friend to all the gold of Darius, or even to Darius himself: I am such a lover of friends as that. And when I see you and Lysis, at your early age, so easily possessed of his tr [...]

    3. booklady on said:

      Socrates is Plato’s Christ-like figure in that he asks enigmatic questions designed to provide knowledge and self-revelation for those wise enough to see it. His dialogues seek to answer some consequential over-arching question—in the case of Lysis here, “What is Friendship?”—through a series of smaller deceptively simple questions. But also like Jesus, Socrates cannot be taken at face value. His questions are never as they seem, in that your answers say more about YOU than they do abo [...]

    4. Simo Ibourki on said:

      After a little small talk about the boy and his "favourite" other boy (his lover), Socrates jumps right into the main issue which is: what is the nature of friendship?Socrates gives a definition Then another one Then another one Then he says to himself that his "head is dizzy (my head too) with thinking of the argument"Then another one Then he says "may not the other theory have been only a long story about nothing? (Really Socrates?!)At last he admits that it's really ridiculous to be in a frie [...]

    5. Melika Khoshnezhad on said:

      من تازه شروع كردم به خوندن محاورات افلاطون و نمي دونم همه شون اينجوري هستن يا نه ولي خيلي هيجان شون بالاست واغلب گيج كننده ان، جوري كه وقتي داري ميخوني چند بار بايد هي برگردي صفحه هاي قبل و حتا ترتيب استدلال رو بنويسي تا درست بفهمي جريان مكالماتشون به كدوم سمت داره ميره. اين مح [...]

    6. Sookie on said:

      Plato offers a very clinical and detached view on "Friendship". There is a utilitarian view on this subject and Socrates subtly implies he prefers having a good friend over love. Lysis seems like an easy read but isn't so as Reason plays alongside the dialogues on necessary of others in our lives. Great primer to Plato's dialogues.People walk around calling everyone there best friend. The term doesn't have any real meaning anymore. Mere acquaintances are lavished with hugs and kisses upon a seco [...]

    7. رحمان on said:

      While the Symposium is an exploration of eros (erotic/passionate love), this earlier and shorter dialogue is an examination of a different, but nevertheless related, kind of love, philia (friendship).

    8. Andrew on said:

      Read this in relation to some background research for a chapter in my thesis. I am totally unfamiliar with Plato's work, though I am generally familiar with his ideas on a second-hand basis. This was a good work on friendship, which had broader definitions than our modern concept. I like how his philosophy, this work in particular, takes the form of a short story: it makes the ideas a lot easier to digest, although this was a tough one with rather complex arguments. And, after all that, it came [...]

    9. Viji(Bookish endeavors) on said:

      Well It was a perfect lesson on how to keep on talking for an hour and mean absolutely nothing at all. I do not understand the need to confuse things when it could've been done the easy way. It seems like Socrates is talking like the sophists,simply creating confusion without intending to reach any conclusion. I wouldn't recommend this dialogue to people who don't have enough patience.

    10. Regan on said:

      Great and readable primer on the Lysis. I'd definitely recommend it as a first read to get one's bearing on the actual dialogue. It doesn't bog the reader down with all of the interpretive disputes about the dialogue. It is a straight read. If the reader is interested in disputes, the final chapter will point them to the greater issues at stake in interpretation.

    11. Talie on said:

      در دیالوگ های افلاطون به روند استدلال علاقه مندم. گرچه گفته می شود این دیالوگ به دسته ی اولیه ی دیالوگ های افلاطون – که چهره ی واقعی سقراط را نشان می دهند و سقراط پرسنده و ناقد است- تعلق دارد، در لا به لای گفته های سقراط رد واضحی از نظریه ی مثل افلاطون را می توان دید. در واقع این د [...]

    12. Felipe Oquendo on said:

      Diálogo sobre a amizade e o amor entre amigos. É uma sucessão de aporias que termina em círculo, de forma que não satisfará àqueles que precisam de uma definição bem comportada e final sobre o que é a amizade, mas é um baita treino de dialética.

    13. Colum on said:

      One of the more headache-inducing Socratic dialogues that I've read. Concerning friendship, love, and good and evil, with Socrates doing most of the talking. Really convoluted and hard to follow half the time. At one point Socrates alludes to evil being necessary for good to exist, as was believed by some Oriental philosophers that he probably wouldn't have been aware of, but he quickly refutes himself in that too. Ends on an amusing note from Socrates:- "O Menexenus and Lysis, how ridiculous th [...]

    14. Maan Kawas on said:

      Interesting and thought provoking dialogue by Plato exploring the nature of friendship! Although the dialogue did not reach any specific definition of friendship, it shows that philosophy is rather about raising questions than providing answers. However, it seems that as human relationships and nature are complex and subject to many interconnected factors (e.g. Biological, genetic, cognitive, emotional/psychological, social, and cultural), it is difficult to reach a clear-cut definition of such [...]

    15. Mark on said:

      Clear translation, inconclusive dialogueBenjamin Jowett's translation is clear and straightforward. In this dialogue, Socrates challenges young men who have indicated their friendship. They explore several possible definitions of friendship. Mostly, they eliminate i.e. what friendship is NOT. I appreciated the style of this dialogue. Other than that, I didn't like the inconclusiveness of it.

    16. Johnny on said:

      The arguments didn't seemed more scholastic than insightful, and Socrates does not pretend to have reached any conclusion. But, there is something touching about this group of friends hanging out one night like nerdy kids who don't want to party, comfortably in their friendship, but unable to say what friendship is.

    17. Adri on said:

      Kembali berpikir bersama dengan metode dilektika untuk menemukan makna akan persahabatan. Sebuah bacaan yang sebaiknya dibaca mereka yang ingin memahami lebih mengenai arti kata sahabat itu sendiri dan mengapa kita bersahabat.

    18. Max on said:

      This was actually pretty difficult to follow because of all the ideas they bring up and agree with before Socrates quickly tears them down. They never reach an actual conclusion on friendship either; they just understand that they are friends.

    19. Jessica on said:

      "-Dime, entonces. Cuando alguien ama a alguien, ¿quién es amigo de quién, el amante del amado, o el amado del amante? ¿O no se diferencian en nada?" (Platón, 1981, 212b)

    20. Nuska on said:

      Habla en esta ocasión Sócrates de la amistad y para ello estructura Platón este diálogo en tres partes. En la primera, camina Sócrates por las afueras de la ciudad para no distraerse con el campo u otra cosa que no sea el encuentro de sus semejantes, cuando se encuentra con tres amigos en el gimnasio. Entre ellos, uno quiere cultivar la amistad de Lisis, pero no le hace más que elogios, aconsejándole los demás que no es éste el mejor modo de ganar el afecto de alguien. En la segunda par [...]

    21. Trounin on said:

      Всё человеком делается во имя собственной славы. Тот же Платон возвеличил своё имя, рассказывая о деяниях Сократа. В положительных ли чертах он о нём отзывался или в отрицательных — не имеет значения. Платон мог ничего за жизнь не сделать, оставив вместо себя образ другого [...]

    22. Alejandra on said:

      Leerlo al mismo tiempo que "Filosofía del budismo Zen", de Byung Chul-Han, hizo que salieran a relucir durante la lectura los problemas de la lógica formal, de la ética clásica. De hecho, aunque Platón retoma y refina el argumento en "El banquete" y en "Fedro", este resulta sorpendentemente inconclusivo y, cosa curiosa, manifiestamente imperfecto. "Lisis" es, en breve, un libro muy ilustrativo.

    23. Sol on said:

      A cool dialogue on friendship! Plato uses something like Formal Logic to try and figure out what 'philos' love is all about. Plato is getting us to think about philos and what's going on, not arrive at a conclusion, more or less. A cool thought puzzle. Will make your head all wobbly and dizzy, though.

    24. Ertuğrul Nehri on said:

      Hiçbir sonuca varılamadığı düşünülürken, aslında pek çok şeyi ifşa etmiş olmak.

    25. Sergio Calderón on said:

      Nice. I've read it in spanish translation. For some reason, most early Plato's works in english seem poorly. Search for good editors before reading philosophy, I think this is a good advice.

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